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the long warred's avatar

Yes one has to work. Yes.

Try shoveling 💩 in a barn age 8-14. Piss off with this beneath me bullshit. Go live in the underpass, see what you’re beneath. If you’re beneath a roof better have earned it.

(Thanks for serving me too)

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Professor Axelrod's avatar

Never mind what Canadian pop band Barenaked Ladies told us back in the 90s, 25 years ago if you had a million dollars you were not rich. But it did go a lot further than today.

The sentiment here is on target. Do what you have to do; I had a mind numbing cashier job when I had to, and then worked temp jobs because they paid better - temp warehouse jobs were tedious as hell, temp office jobs were by comparison great, and my typing speed was good, so I got light clerical work, which covered groceries and gasoline at least and hopefully the occasional date. Eventually there were better jobs - and sometimes there weren't.

Even a university degree - or in my case, a pair of them - didn't prove to be a ticket to easy street; it did get me a better job, from which I learned a lot - in particular, I learned how not to run a company by watching how the management was running that one. After a bit over a year I got injured, left, and joined up with some friends to do our own thing. It was hard going, a ton of work, and nearly failed several times; I was borderline homeless and couch surfing a couple times along the way. But we did get it right; we kind of "caught lightning in a bottle" as the saying goes, and a couple years later we were very successful and shortly thereafter I was in fact doing pretty darn well financially (and we made quite a number of folks in the company rich by the aforementioned song's standards).

So are we at boom times again? Too early to say, but I think the groundwork has been laid for it to happen as long as we (collectively) don't screw it up. Don't hitch your wagon to a Chipotle long term. Do what you need to in order to get by. But keep your eye on what's going to be successful *for you personally* as the future unfolds, as Bingo did with his shift out of economist into engineering, and position yourself well with a role and with allies that will succeed.

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Bingo Bobbins's avatar

Haha but if you had a million dollars you wouldn't have to eat Kraft dinner so at least that part of the song is accurate 😁

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Professor Axelrod's avatar

And I have in fact met people who decided that they in fact still eat Kraft dinner, they'd just eat more.

I guess there's nothing wrong with knowing what you like and what makes you comfortable. I'm quite happy to be living higher on the food chain now though.

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Ellie is Based in Paris's avatar

This is a good take on the issue. I am tired of the chipotle boot strapping rhetoric, but people also have to work if they want to buy things. And sometimes work isn’t very fun or glamorous.

that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t advocate for policies that give people more opportunities for upward mobility.

But in the meantime, we do what we have to do .

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Elizabeth Hamilton's avatar

No, I think all honest full-time work should be rewarded with a living wage which means enough money to house, clothe and feed oneself and two or three dependents in wherever it is that you live.

Of course, that makes anything made or grown in the West 10 to 20 times more expensive but it also makes for a cohesive society and culture without need for mass immigration.

Which is why I only have one pair of shoes and have to save up for a cast-iron frying pan.

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Kristoffer O’Shaugnessy's avatar

The real unemployment rate is of course far higher than fudged government statistics.

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the long warred's avatar

We need to Tariff the foreign goods out, and the Foreign services too. Try outsourcing that , Ruling 🤡 Clowns.

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